
About this episode
Military confrontations, early-morning attacks, and digital warfare: the story of Iran and the U.S. from the 1979 Iranian revolution to the fraught moment we're in today. This episode originally ran in 2019 as Rules of Engagement . You can find more of Throughline's coverage into the origins of the conflict in the Middle East here . Guests: Karim Sadjadpour , senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace Michael Eisenstadt , director of the Washington Institute's military and security studies program Kim Zetter , writer for WIRED magazine and author of Countdown to Zero Day: Stuxnet and the Launch of the World's First Digital Weapon To access bonus episodes and listen to Throughline sponsor-free, subscribe to Throughline+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org/throughline . See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy